Ka-tet Cantina 2020

Hedda Gabler

Pass on the stories.  I’ll laugh with them, not at them. 

Okay. Who am I kidding? I laugh at them too. 

Hedda Gabler

Apple + free weekend. Go binge Bad Sisters! Or Shrinking! Ted Lasso! Hijack! Bad monkey! Severance!

not_nadine

I was in a local park today and found out that there are wild monkeys living there.
My friend told me yes, they come down her street sometimes.  What?????
I was on the lookout for face-ripping savage monkeys the whole time.  How can this be?

FlakeNoir

not_nadine said:

I was in a local park today and found out that there are wild monkeys living there.
My friend told me yes, they come down her street sometimes.  What?????
I was on the lookout for face-ripping savage monkeys the whole time.  How can this be?

Does the U.S not have monkey's? (Why all the WTF'k faces?🤔)

not_nadine

Not supposed to be.

Google says:

There are wild monkeys in
Florida, but they are not native to the United States. They are rhesus macaques which were brought to Florida as an exotic tourist attraction in the 1930's. By the late 1940's, there were 12 of these monkeys living on privately owned land that is now a state park named Silver Springs. They were kept on an island in a river but turned out to be good swimmers, escaped, and adapted to the nearby forest.


I wonder if that's where they got the movie title 12 Monkeys.

Hedda Gabler

FlakeNoir said:

not_nadine said:

I was in a local park today and found out that there are wild monkeys living there.
My friend told me yes, they come down her street sometimes.  What?????
I was on the lookout for face-ripping savage monkeys the whole time.  How can this be?

Does the U.S not have monkey's? (Why all the WTF'k faces?🤔)

We have monkeys in zoos only — I thought. There aren’t monkey colonies in the wild.  Until now. 

Hedda Gabler

Does new zealand have roaming gangs of monkeys?

not_nadine

I certainly don't want to see them strolling up the street like my friend does. I saw it on YouTube too. Snyder Park monkeys

GNTLGNT

Hedda Gabler said:

Does new zealand have roaming gangs of monkeys?

....set to a West Side Story beat......

FlakeNoir

Hedda Gabler said:

Does new zealand have roaming gangs of monkeys?

No, none wild. Just in zoos. GNTLGNT said:

Hedda Gabler said:

Does new zealand have roaming gangs of monkeys?

....set to a West Side Story beat......

😂😁

GNTLGNT

....been sick the last 3 days.....crap on top of crap.....blah and double meh.....takin' the meds, drinkin' the fluids yadda, yadda, yadda....m-o-o-n that spells bullshit.....

Kurben

GNTLGNT said:

....been sick the last 3 days.....crap on top of crap.....blah and double meh.....takin' the meds, drinkin' th
e fluids yadda, yadda, yadda....m-o-o-n that spells bullshit.....

Oh no!!! Take care of yourself, Scott! Get better soon.

GNTLGNT

...thanks old friend, doing my best.....

not_nadine

Feel better. I have the same crap and it won't go away.

FlakeNoir

Feel better you guys. 😊🍛

GNTLGNT

.....thank ya......

Hedda Gabler

Sorry you two are feeling icky.  Quick recovery!

Hedda Gabler

I’m seriously disheartened today. I just read a Vulture article on this Neil Gaiman shit. 

Sigh. For the first time, I am struggling with my firm stance of separating art from artist. First time if memory serves. 

No matter how vile someone has been, their works I once enjoyed,  I continue to enjoy with unfortunate caveats now attached. A good book is still a good book. A good show or movie continues to be a worthwhile viewing. 

It’s easier for me to champion the creative thing when lots of people are involved.  I won’t punish all the other hands who added to the final product. But a book is a deeply personal one man/woman show. Sure, there are a vast number of jobs created to bring a book to existence. But it’s the authors world, every word is now suspect. Hidden meanings? I will still love what i love, but it is tainted.  And maybe I can’t go home again.  

I believe the women who have stepped forward in this story. I don’t always. I take all allegations seriously and I form an opinion. My opinion. Which might not agree with your opinion.  And none of us with certainty can know if they are true or not. (Unless there is videos and audios that have been verified authentic, tangible evidence to back-up the claims). 

But, Neil admits to a lot of this behavior — saying it was consensual. That alone leaves me creeped out. Because things done were fucking creepy. 

All I know, I hope authorities are investigating rigorously for the safety of their child. Because Amanda Palmer is just as grotesque in this story. In my opinion.  I hope this has changed her idea about her celebrity and power to so blatantly shaft people their wages, believing that basking in her armpit hair is reward enough.
 Lucky are those she taps for servitude. 
Hmmm, maybe that needs to be embroidered on a pillow. 

Her use of another person for your own greedy benefit is ugly.  She needs to shut her hypocritical mouth on feminism and rape victims or, step into the light with the truth to save her soul and her child. Apologize to the vulnerable women who thought they found a voice through her. She knows all. And she can cooperate. I so want her to be a hero. 

Be a hero Amanda. 

Hedda Gabler

Crap. Revised. I always do this. 

I’m seriously disheartened today. I just read a Vulture article on this Neil Gaiman shit.  Sigh. For the first time, I am struggling with my firm stance of separating art from artist. First. Time.  if memory serves.  No matter how vile someone has been, their works I once enjoyed, I continue to enjoy with unfortunate caveats now attached. A good book is still a good book. A good show or movie continues to be a worthwhile viewing. A lovely piece of music can still resonate a beautiful message. Despite the monster in the closet.  It’s easier for me to champion the creative thing when lots of people are involved. I won’t punish all the other hands who added to the final product. But a book is a deeply personal one-man/woman show. Sure, there are a vast number of jobs created to bring a book to existence. But it’s the author’s story, every word now suspect. Hidden meanings? I will still love what I love, but it is tainted. And maybe I can’t go home again.  I believe the women who have stepped forward in this story. I don’t always. I take all allegations seriously and I form an opinion. My opinion. Which might not agree with your opinion. And none of us with certainty can know if they are true or not. (Unless there is videos and audios that have been verified authentic, tangible evidence to back-up the claims). I can’t say these allegations are true. I can’t say they’re not. And this, once again is why we must be very careful when jumping on a bandwagon that the wheels can come off of when the truth comes to light— if it ever does.  In this case, Neil admits to a lot of this behavior — saying it was consensual. That alone leaves me creeped out. Because things done were fucking creepy. But illegal? Depends on what salacious detail you pick to focus on.  All I know, I hope authorities are investigating rigorously for the safety of their child. Because Amanda Palmer is just as grotesque in this story. In my opinion.  I hope this has changed her idea about her celebrity and the power imbalance that allowed her to creatively not pay people their wages, believing that basking in her armpit hair was reward enough. Lucky are those she taps for servitude.  Hmmm, maybe that needs to be embroidered on a pillow.  The use of another person for your own greedy benefit is ugly.  Picking people who have nothing to lose because their life circumstances are so scary, they agree to demands just to keep a roof over their heads and their belly’s fed. People who have not learned that it is okay to say no. “No” is one of the hardest words in the English language. People absolutely fear saying it.   And the possible hypocritical voice championing feminism and rape victims spews a questionable shadow now.  That’s the legacy? I hope she steps into the light with the truth to save her soul and her child. Apologize to the vulnerable women who thought they found a voice through her. She knows all. And she can cooperate. I so want her to be a hero.  Be a hero Amanda.

GNTLGNT

.....I appreciate all of that, and the vulnerability it took to admit that sometimes a stance can't be made of unmalleable steel....this is one of the most disgusting cases I've read, and thought my disgust meter couldn't go any higher-but I was wrong....

Hedda Gabler

GNTLGNT said:

.....I appreciate all of that, and the vulnerability it took to admit that sometimes a stance can't be made of unmalleable steel....this is one of the most disgusting cases I've read, and thought my disgust meter couldn't go any higher-but I was wrong....

It’s just awful. And reading further, it appears there are texts, audios and videos that support the women, so that’a another nail in his coffin. 

Let me be clear on my thoughts. I think Amanda was complicit in obtaining girls for Neil. But, was she just introducing and Neil was telling her later that it was consensual? While they had an open marriage based on transparency between them, was Neil honest with her?  Amanda told him the nanny was off limits, and he chose to cross a set boundary in their marriage agreement, not to mention his brutalizing of a vulnerable girl. 

I’m hoping like hell she didn’t know her son was ordering adult women around calling them Slave. And she could easily buy into 14 disgruntled women lying, because she either didn’t want to see the truth or she knew and didn’t give a shit. Champion for abuse victims my ass. 

So, while I think she is a disgusting pig, and should pay for her part in some way — the cops often make deals with the lesser of two evils to get the big fish.  I say, cut her a deal and get the big fish. 

If anyone deserves the wrath of cancel culture, it’s them. And lord god, let there be one decent human in that child’s life to get him help. 

Kurben

Hedda Gabler said:

Crap. Revised. I always do this. 

I’m seriously disheartened today. I just read a Vulture article on this Neil Gaiman shit.  Sigh. For the first time, I am struggling with my firm stance of separating art from artist. First. Time.  if memory serves.  No matter how vile someone has been, their works I once enjoyed, I continue to enjoy with unfortunate caveats now attached. A good book is still a good book. A good show or movie continues to be a worthwhile viewing. A lovely piece of music can still resonate a beautiful message. Despite the monster in the closet.  It’s easier for me to champion the creative thing when lots of people are involved. I won’t punish all the other hands who added to the final product. But a book is a deeply personal one-man/woman show. Sure, there are a vast number of jobs created to bring a book to existence. But it’s the author’s story, every word now suspect. Hidden meanings? I will still love what I love, but it is tainted. And maybe I can’t go home again.  I believe the women who have stepped forward in this story. I don’t always. I take all allegations seriously and I form an opinion. My opinion. Which might not agree with your opinion. And none of us with certainty can know if they are true or not. (Unless there is videos and audios that have been verified authentic, tangible evidence to back-up the claims). I can’t say these allegations are true. I can’t say they’re not. And this, once again is why we must be very careful when jumping on a bandwagon that the wheels can come off of when the truth comes to light— if it ever does.  In this case, Neil admits to a lot of this behavior — saying it was consensual. That alone leaves me creeped out. Because things done were fucking creepy. But illegal? Depends on what salacious detail you pick to focus on.  All I know, I hope authorities are investigating rigorously for the safety of their child. Because Amanda Palmer is just as grotesque in this story. In my opinion.  I hope this has changed her idea about her celebrity and the power imbalance that allowed her to creatively not pay people their wages, believing that basking in her armpit hair was reward enough. Lucky are those she taps for servitude.  Hmmm, maybe that needs to be embroidered on a pillow.  The use of another person for your own greedy benefit is ugly.  Picking people who have nothing to lose because their life circumstances are so scary, they agree to demands just to keep a roof over their heads and their belly’s fed. People who have not learned that it is okay to say no. “No” is one of the hardest words in the English language. People absolutely fear saying it.   And the possible hypocritical voice championing feminism and rape victims spews a questionable shadow now.  That’s the legacy? I hope she steps into the light with the truth to save her soul and her child. Apologize to the vulnerable women who thought they found a voice through her. She knows all. And she can cooperate. I so want her to be a hero.  Be a hero Amanda.

I have obviously totally missed this story. Sad to hear that about Gaiman.

Hedda Gabler

Neil has put out a statement:

https://journal.neilgaiman.com/?m=1

FlakeNoir

Hedda Gabler said:

Neil has put out a statement:

https://journal.neilgaiman.com/?m=1

Interesting. I wasn't there, I don't know who's being honest, who is remembering accurately, who might be living a reality they wish were true, in order to reconcile their actions or choices. 
Trust isn't what comes to mind when I think of Neil or Amanda though. They were fully grown adults, with adult brains and adult life experiences. The babysitter was barely into her 20's, still so easily influenced at that age. And she wasn't the youngest?

FlakeNoir

Side note: also S3 of Good Omens is totally fk'd up because of this. I'm (additionally) annoyed about this. I freaking loved that show.